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    2009 atom3 vin location

    Hi. Can anyone tell me where I can find the Vin number on the atom? Thank you.

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    Only very few Atom 2's had VINs; none of the Atom 3's do. The 3 has a short serial number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Only very few Atom 2's had VINs; none of the Atom 3's do. The 3 has a short serial number.
    All of the Brammo cars except for the mule had a 17-digit identifier. Regardless of whether you call it a VIN or a PIN, it will be equally acceptable (or unacceptable) to the DMV. [Trivia - you can CARFAX any of the Brammo cars.]

    If an Atom 3 was registered in a state where the DMV insists on assigning their own VIN, it will be mounted ("permanently affixed") wherever that state normally puts them, which varies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Kennedy View Post
    All of the Brammo cars except for the mule had a 17-digit identifier. Regardless of whether you call it a VIN or a PIN, it will be equally acceptable (or unacceptable) to the DMV. [Trivia - you can CARFAX any of the Brammo cars.]

    If an Atom 3 was registered in a state where the DMV insists on assigning their own VIN, it will be mounted ("permanently affixed") wherever that state normally puts them, which varies.
    I thought the RAMxxx serial numbers were VIN-compliant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I thought the RAMxxx serial numbers were VIN-compliant?
    Nope, the checksum doesn't validate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Kennedy View Post
    Nope, the checksum doesn't validate.
    So, Ariel gave Brammo a bad batch of VINs, Ariel habitually uses non-checksummed VINs, or did Brammo have no idea how to recalculate the checksum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    So, Ariel gave Brammo a bad batch of VINs, Ariel habitually uses non-checksummed VINs, or did Brammo have no idea how to recalculate the checksum?
    Ariel uses (or at least used to) non-checksummed VINs. The checksum is a US requirement, not a worldwide one. Almost all of the Brammo RAM cars have VINS of AA05H2022DNRAMxxx. That means the checksum (bold 2) is a constant. Also, the D would mean these cars are 1983 or 2013 models and the AA means they were built in South Africa. A lot of that is waived for "low volume manufacturers", but even so, the sequence doesn't make sense as a VIN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Kennedy View Post
    Ariel uses (or at least used to) non-checksummed VINs. The checksum is a US requirement, not a worldwide one. Almost all of the Brammo RAM cars have VINS of AA05H2022DNRAMxxx. That means the checksum (bold 2) is a constant. Also, the D would mean these cars are 1983 or 2013 models and the AA means they were built in South Africa. A lot of that is waived for "low volume manufacturers", but even so, the sequence doesn't make sense as a VIN.
    Hooray for worldwide standards!
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