New Dealer

[bolus]

From the email announcement today

Ace Performance announced as Northeast Ariel Atom dealer
Ariel Atom

I wonder if this will help in any way to get Atom's registered in MA?

[silver]

From the email announcement today

Ace Performance announced as Northeast Ariel Atom dealer
Ariel Atom

I wonder if this will help in any way to get Atom's registered in MA?

I don't see why it would, TMI has stated they don't care about helping people get cars registered, they are not selling street cars

[bolus]

Brammo managed to get a law in Oregon passed. Crappy ass law, but it got done. Shinoo is doing stuff to help register Mono's and Atom's in California. Perhaps these guys that help manage registering the car as a kit for those that need help?

Im sure TMI and everyone else knows that they will sell a lot more cars if they can be registered. They probably dont really want to say that publicly though.

[silver]

I agree everyone knows they'd sell a lot more cars if they were easily made street legal, and since they really don't go after that market you can only deduce they do NOT want to sell a lot more cars.

[schills]

I just finished registering my non-Atom car in Los Angeles through the SB100 process. It was very simple if you know the process and are legit in following it.

On the way in to the BAR referee (step 4 in a 5 step process) a BAC Mono pulled out. I spent some time discussing the car with the referee. The owner of that car was furious as he couldn't get it past the BAR referee. It is highly unlikely that a BAC Mono will ever be registered in CA again. One got through a while ago and I suspect that is where it ends. When a car is sold as turn key, it is unlikley that CA will allow it to be registered under SB100, which then (I think) results in the car needing to meet all normal vehicle code, safety, and emmisions standards. I also asked about Ariel Atoms. He doesn't believe any were registered in 2013. I think selling an engine delete option is key to being able to register an Atom in CA under SB100 going forward. Not sure if its possible to register one at all without SB100. It also appears that an Atom registered in another state. . . that did not go through their version of SB100. . . will also never be able to be registered in CA. That's the part that disappointed me, since that's the scenario I envisioned playing out for me. But I'm going to explore a little further based on information I now have after going through the process.

A side note. The BAR referee with whom I spoke was a true car guy and really wants people to be able to register the cars. He was really helpful in explaining the realities of the process and how Sacramento looks at each situation when the paperwork ends up at HQ. Its not up to him. He can pass you and then you can still receive a notice 7 months later cancelling your registration. He'd rather that people scream at him a little now, than scream at him a lot later when the registration gets rescinded. Sacramento knows the tricks folks try to pull, they are well informed, and they use the internet to research candidate cars with which they are unfamiliar.

If you are in CA and want/need to discuss, drop me a PM.

[silver]

I just finished registering my non-Atom car in Los Angeles through the SB100 process. It was very simple if you know the process and are legit in following it.

On the way in to the BAR referee (step 4 in a 5 step process) a BAC Mono pulled out. I spent some time discussing the car with the referee. The owner of that car was furious as he couldn't get it past the BAR referee. It is highly unlikely that a BAC Mono will ever be registered in CA again. One got through a while ago and I suspect that is where it ends. When a car is sold as turn key, it is unlikley that CA will allow it to be registered under SB100, which then (I think) results in the car needing to meet all normal vehicle code, safety, and emmisions standards. I also asked about Ariel Atoms. He doesn't believe any were registered in 2013. I think selling an engine delete option is key to being able to register an Atom in CA under SB100 going forward. Not sure if its possible to register one at all without SB100. It also appears that an Atom registered in another state. . . that did not go through their version of SB100. . . will also never be able to be registered in CA. That's the part that disappointed me, since that's the scenario I envisioned playing out for me. But I'm going to explore a little further based on information I now have after going through the process.

A side note. The BAR referee with whom I spoke was a true car guy and really wants people to be able to register the cars. He was really helpful in explaining the realities of the process and how Sacramento looks at each situation when the paperwork ends up at HQ. Its not up to him. He can pass you and then you can still receive a notice 7 months later cancelling your registration. He'd rather that people scream at him a little now, than scream at him a lot later when the registration gets rescinded. Sacramento knows the tricks folks try to pull, they are well informed, and they use the internet to research candidate cars with which they are unfamiliar.

If you are in CA and want/need to discuss, drop me a PM.

That's all accurate info, and good for anyone who's looking at buying an atom. This is why California atoms typically go for a higher price....the higher price is because the SB100 is transferrable to a new owner. An out of state owner would be mad to buy a California atom which has the inflated value for sb100 as it does them no good moving it out of state....on the flip side, California owners only have 2 options if they want that cali plate on the car, SB100 as a new car OR buy a used california atom already SB100


you can always register in a state that allows atoms, the only drawback there is IF your local state forbids you to drive a car with out of state plates (meaning if you live local, you need to have a local plate)

[MadMaxAtom]

NWIFH will having an Ariel Atom official dealer in Ma change anything about registering one here for road use..sorry to be so negative..but that's the facts jack. Bosstown Beano Yankees..!

SRA for track use..fine...'cept it rains a LOT here..so not so fine...unless you like driving in the rain.

Man,I am negative tonight! Must be the snow...