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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyIII View Post
    I have both seats out and the firewall out so visual inspection of the gasket should be easy. The fuel lines have been covered to prevent wear so that should not be a problem. I will post some pictures of the rod ends so that maybe someone can tell me if these have been changed. I have a small problem though. When I received the Atom it started right up and ran great. I then removed the body work and started to detail the car. The first thing I did was remove a rats nest of wiring that was an aftermarket ground effects lighting system, no problem just disconnect it and pull it out. I also carefully cleaned out the fuse box removing the metal cover of the immoblizer. I did not disconnect anything in the fuse box, just a light cleaning and I did NOT use water. On the back of the Atom I removed both the tea tray and snorkel unit but did not mess with anything electrical. Now the Atom will not start. It switches on and when I wave the fob under the dash I hear the fuel pump kick on, the battery spins the motor over at a good speed but no fire. I have inspected to see if anything is disconnected and can not find an issue. Everything works fine, lights, horn, signals, it just will not fire. Any thoughts, anyone!
    there are 2 seperate noises to hear when the immobilizer kicks on

    1: fuel pump priming, which is a high pitched whine
    2: throttle body open / close which is a thunk

    do you hear both?

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    check all the fuses (pull them out and look at them) probably a fuse or you disconnected something accidentally on the harness
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    This may sound silly..but make sure there is actually enough fuel in the tank. Just because the fuel gauge reads "something" does not always guarantee adequate supply to fire.
    The power of an Atom is a terrible thing to waste! Atom owner/operator since 2007. The more you chase perfection,the faster it becomes. John Force for President! (I asked him once in person...he laughed)

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    Thanks for the fast response. Here is what I have, the fuses are all good. To bad that would have been such an easy fix! Are there any fuses outside of the fuse box?? The gas tank is full, another easy fix! When I wave the fob under the dash I hear two clear sounds, one is the fuel pump whine and the other is a small click of a relay from the front of the car. There does seem to be another very faint click coming from the engine but it is very faint and I had to do this a couple of times to make myself believe I was hearing it. Is the throttle bodies opening a pretty loud thunk or is it pretty faint? I only started the car twice so all of the sounds are a little foggy in my head but my first thought when it did not start was that something was missing.
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    its always something simple in the end. check all your connectors. Like the throttle body connector probably does not have a lock on it making it easy to pop out. The throttle body connector and maf connector are a similar plug so they could have been accidentally switched if you unplugged anything. Look where the lighting wires were hooked up to make sure that didnt disconnect anything.

    there are no fuses outside the box unless someone added something custom (Like me, I have multiple hidden fuses
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    When you check the fuses, pull them out and look in the sockets to make sure you see the metal pins. On my atom some of the fuse box pins pushed out the back side so they were not touching the fuses.

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    1) RAM284 should have cork fuel gaskets which will be destroyed if you attempt to remove them. If the filler neck attaches to the tank with an oval metal plate, you have a cork gasket.

    2) I'd call the throttle body noise more of a burp than a thunk. Regardless, if it isn't making the sound, your powertrain relay is not kicking in. Your car wasn't built with a battery disconnect master switch, so that isn't the problem (the small wires on the disconnect switch are for the powertrain relay). Look around the fuse box in the area of the powertrain relay and fuse. That would be R2 in fuse box 1 and F6 in fuse box 2. F6 in fuse box 1 is another possibility. I believe the relays are all interchangable. Fuses are easily available at the auto parts store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyIII View Post
    Thanks for the fast response. Here is what I have, the fuses are all good. To bad that would have been such an easy fix! Are there any fuses outside of the fuse box?? The gas tank is full, another easy fix! When I wave the fob under the dash I hear two clear sounds, one is the fuel pump whine and the other is a small click of a relay from the front of the car. There does seem to be another very faint click coming from the engine but it is very faint and I had to do this a couple of times to make myself believe I was hearing it. Is the throttle bodies opening a pretty loud thunk or is it pretty faint? I only started the car twice so all of the sounds are a little foggy in my head but my first thought when it did not start was that something was missing.
    Thanks
    GuyIII

    I just checked a video I had made and the throttle body doesn't make the Thunk noise upon startup, sorry I was misleading and my memory was incorrect

    I'm sure this is NOT the answer but it's something you should check....Brammo forgot to put the retainer clip in the throttle body plug and mine came loose, several other owners checked their harness to also find the retainer clip missing, I only mention it just to make sure yours is installed.

    mine wiggled loose while I was filming....and the car still starts and runs in nuetral even with the plug disconnected, so again I'm sure this isn't your problem, it just jogged my memory about that clip


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    Thanks guys for all of the suggestions. Here is what I have found so far. Terry, you are right, I have cork gaskets and all of the tank seals look good. I have checked all of the fuses and they all look good. I really cannot tell if there is a problem with the relays. As I posted earlier I do hear one kick on when the fob makes activates the immobilizer. I have check and re-checked as many connections on the engine that I can see and none appear lose. The only thing that is puzzling is a female plug near the fuel pump that is not connected to anything. There is also a male plug on the top of the fuel pump with no connection to it. (see Pictures) both are 3 pins but the shapes do not look like they mate and it is a stretch to get them close to each other. Will these plugs in fact mate up or they just unused on this wiring harness? plug on top of fuel pump.jpgunattached plug.jpgunattached plug number.jpg

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    Here is another picture showing the unconnected plugs.Plugs.jpg

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