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    Very cool. What specifically do you attribute the improved smoothness to?

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    I'm going to say the Lindskog dynamic balancing is what did the trick. It really is quite a dramatic difference over stock...and in stock configuration,there were two 3lb. "unbalanced" balance shafts spinning at twice crank speed to neutralize the engine vibrations. I would think GM/Saab would just balance everything dynamically to eliminate vibrations rather than the setup they use. Maybe I'm missing something,but to me the Lindskog setup seems better with a lot less hardware. Maybe it's not possible to do it economically on a mass production scale…?
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    Is it smooth at all RPM? I cut off my balance shafts, and I have some vibration at a certain RPM. It's not a big deal, but that's interesting that you have none at all.
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    Ryan,I wouldn't say there is none at all,but it is substantially less than stock. At idle speed,it is virtually zero. At around 3k there is a bit of a buzz..about like stock,but that's it. At 6.5k it's eerie smooth. I am very happy with the results,although I haven't taken it for a romp because of the typical Ma. shitty-ass-suck-hole weather. Two more years and I'll be heading for Az..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMaxAtom View Post
    I would think GM/Saab would just balance everything dynamically to eliminate vibrations rather than the setup they use.
    Inline 4 engines cannot be perfectly balanced as you describe. The two pistons/rods going up don't exactly cancel the two going down. That's what the balance shafts are for. Lighter/smaller engines sometimes don't bother with it, as in motorcycles. Larger rod ratios help some too.

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    I'm sure factory balancing is done primarily to get maximum results (smoothness) in the "normal" operating RPM range...probably in the 2-4k area,with minimum expense. Custom balancing tends to favor higher operating ranges. This is why Lindskog asks what the purpose of the engine will be. Makes sense to me.
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    Tea trays (painted semi-gloss black) and scoop in place with race roll bar installed and exhaust mounted…sure is nice to see Max back whole again…

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